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Hi, I'm Alex. This is my simple idea: we can write down here everything we would like to share that doesnt fit in the personal blog. David could leave here his "summarized" comment about the week's topics. Who knows if it works? --

Alex - thanks, this is great. Anybody - Is there a way to make this RSS fed? so that we can see when people leave comments here??

Next year's course design suggestion - I think it would be an improvement to have one week where we have readings and comments on our own, and the following week where we comment on others work. Gives me a chance to form my own ideas and questions, and then have feedback. Cheers, Megan http://megsplanet.blogspot.com/ --

Thank you for your great idea, Alex. I have a question, and I hope the learners' community can help me to find the answer ...

I have noticed that some posts have received a feedback, others have not. I am regularly attending the course and meeting the deadlines but I have received no feedback so far. Did I have to enroll before starting the course to receive a feedback? Can I decide to enroll during the course? Actually, I do know the Open Ed course is hard work, this is the reason why I have preferred to postpone my enrolment at the end of my experience rather than to take the risk of subscribing to a course and then do nothing.

Greetings from Elisa http://lendvi.blog.tiscali.it

I have some remarks about being enrolled or not, and I will write about them in my blog. About the rss feed: I suppose the main problem is that we should subscribe 1st to the post feed 2nd to the comments feed. It's an amount of text to read that is simply overhuman! We could try using | diigo.com where I have opened a group | our group, it works this way: someone register to the service and then can put notes and comments on someone else's blog post or web page. The comments and notes go to a directory open to group members who can read and recomment them. Maybe it works. Or maybe not. I am confused. The basic idea would that I read some posts, Meg some others, Karin some further and so on, und thus we get a shared view of all posts and all comments. What do you think? alessandro

I have just read David Wiley's and Alessandro's posts, now everything is a bit clearer. Thanks to Alessandro for having raised the question that was discussed by the various members of the LTEver community attending this course and to Megan for her idea to reserve some time to read and comment on the other users' posts, it should become a must in every course. Probably another place out of this space where to meet could take the learners' attention off the main meeting places, that is this wiki and Wiley's blog. All the best, Elisa

Thanks for setting this up. I like Alessandro's idea of having different people read selected posts and then post a digest of points that are of interest to all. That's a good way to share the work and still get the benefits. All of this discussion is interesting to me since I also design and teach online courses. Perhaps at the end of the course if there isn't a course evaluation planned, we could get up one up to get everyone's feedback. karen

We could organise the job in different way: - decide which post I, you, he/she will read and then make the digest - decide wether some blog are worthy a glance and then follow them (some people are writing later than planned, and some aren't writing at all). (Alessandro)

Yes, I was just thinking about making a new list of people who are really active in the course. My RSS reader isn't doing a good job for this. (We should give some kind of award to all of you from Italy...you are participating so actively, and we're all learning so much from you.) I'll start a list below and then maybe others can fill it in. I'm noticing that we lost a lot of people around week 5 or 6...interesting. Also many people signed up but never participated. (The majority of people on the list are not active at this point.) Managing all this is a definite drawback of just using blogs, though I like the approach in general. I guess this is one reason why people have course management systems. (I wish we would have done this several weeks ago.) karen

Active blogs in Open Ed Course Blog  *****   Will be included in a digest by

Emanuela Zibordi  *****    Karen Elisa Spadavecchia Thieme Hennis Alessandro GIorni Karen Fasimpaur Catia Harriman Antonio Fini Andreas Formiconi Jennifer Maddrell Stian Haklev Note: I stopped at Jennifer on the participants list if anyone wants to continue this.

CONTINUING FROM JENNIFER!! (I stopped at myself, thanks, Megan) Bobbe Allen Yu Chun Kuo Chenyong Zhu Erik Levanger Greg Francom Bryan Ollendyke David González Although he is a little behind. Jon Thomas also behind. Megan Haggerty Rob Barton

In thinking more about this, perhaps a better way to manage this is to ask all course participants to tag their course posts by the week. For example, we could use the tag format openedcourse2007week08, openedcourse2007week09, etc. What do you think? karen

Week-Tags: isn't it what we are doing? If not everybody... but you can put a post in the blog just as I said (maybe someone gave up reading the blogs and isn't taking part to this discussion but would interested... I'm thinking to something like a person going in the market's square and screaming "BOMB!"... even if the bomb isnt' there people around will turn head and listen for a while... About the course structure and the CMS/LSM: you give me - in soccer slang - the assist for some things I'm doing outside of this course.... thanks a lot!!!! (for Antonio: I'm thinking about Gianni Marconato's "holy war" againts LMS/CMS.... you know what I mean)... (alessandro)

Thank you, Alessandro. I'm following this yet another thing to read but I comment on my blog. andreas

Tagging is a little different than what most of us are doing (including OpenEd in the subject line). If you put something specific like openedcourse2007week08 as a tag and if your blog pings Technorati, you can see just the posts with this tag. (OpenEd won't work; it's too general. There are 183,000 posts with that tag in Technorati.) My thought in doing this was that we could then see *just* the posts on this week's stuff instead of everything that everyone is posting...which is seeming like too much to me.:) karen

Ok, Karen, its a good idea. I'm going to tag course posts as you are proposing, starting with openedcourse2007week08. andreas

ok. alessandro

I'm trying an rss feeder for this page. alex

I just realized this space was here when David posted. But this is great, we needed this kind of "backroom forum". I think it's really great that we have taken some time off in the middle of the course to "regroup" and think through how the course is conducted. This is an experiment, and all of us who are in it are responsible for developing the "next generation open learning methodologies" :) Thanks again David for letting us take part, and for listening. I am very curious to see how implementing Megan's proposal is going to change the dynamics. It's interesting - this term is also the first time I ever TA (teach tutorials for a university course), and I have been begging my students for feedback online or offline, telling them that if they wait until the end of the course we cannot change anything for their benefit. But they remain silent, except for when it comes to midterm grades. Of course the dynamics in a university for-credit, for some obligatory course is very very different, but still interesting. Stian

Open Ed - Week 9

Ehi, dear colleagues, I was sure I was terribly late with my work, but I have discovered that only Emanuela and Karen have "done their homework", as far as I know. Come on, do not give up now, where are your posts? :-) Elisa

Hi All! Elisa, Yes there are a few more of us. I don't know why mine hasn't been showing up - I'd posted it earlier this week! I've added more to Karen's list above. ;-) Megan Haggerty

I've been posting every week, too, although I haven't been titling my posts OpenEd...I've just been tagging them as OpenEd, so maybe they've been lost with my other postings. Rob Barton

Hi everyone! I have enjoyed reading your posts and am learning alot from you - it's great to have the opportunity to tell you that in an open forum rather than commenting on your individual blogs. I'm still hanging in there - though admittedly my posts are often late and much less substantial in the analysis than many of yours! Cindy Underhill

Elisa, I posted on monday, andreas --- I posted my writings for week 9 and 10 together. alessandro

Open Ed week 10: list of more or less active participants:
 * Alessandro GIorni::Middle School, Italy, Florence (IT)::a.giorni@garmat.it::http://www.edocet.net/wordpress
 * Andreas Formiconi :: University of Florence, Italy :: andreas.formiconi@gmail.com :: http://iamarf.blogspot.com/
 * Antonio Fini :: University of Florence, Italy :: antonio.fini@gmail.com :: http://www.fininformatica.it/
 * Bobbe Allen :: Utah State University :: b.allen@aggiemail.usu.edu :: http://bobbe-allen.blogspot.com
 * Bryan Ollendyke :: The Pennsylvania State University :: bto108@psu.edu :: http://www.acidscorpio.com/opencourseblog
 * Catia Harriman :: The University of Georgia, Athens, GA, US :: catia@uga.edu :: http://catiaharriman.blogspot.com/
 * Chenyong Zhu::Utah State University::jessie0587@hotmail.com ::http://jessie0587.blogspot.com/
 * Cindy Underhill:: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, Canada:: cindy.underhill@ubc.ca :: http://weblogs.elearning.ubc.ca/underhill/
 * Cormac Lawler :: University of Manchester :: cormaggio@gmail.com :: http://cormaggio.org
 * David González :: Universidad de Alicante, Alicante, Spain :: dgg15@alu.ua.es :: http://nodearth.wordpress.com (week 6)
 * Elisa Spadavecchia :: Liceo Scientifico Quadri, Vicenza (IT) :: elspad@interfree.it :: http://lendvi.blog.tiscali.it/
 * Emanuela Zibordi :: IIS "G.Galilei" Mirandola Modena Italy :: info@emanuelazibordi.it :: http://www.emanuelazibordi.it/
 * Erik Levanger :: Utah State University :: erikjl@cc.usu.edu :: http://vangeroriginal.blogspot.com/
 * Felipe Casanova Patón :: Universidad de Alicante :: felipe.casanova.ua@gmail.com :: http://unabitacoramas.blogspot.com/ (week 6)
 * Greg Francom :: Utah State University :: greg.francom@gmail.com :: http://gregfrancom.blogspot.com/
 * Jennifer Maddrell :: Indiana University - Bloomington via Hoboken, NJ (USA) :: http://designedtoinspire.com/drupal/ (week 8)
 * Karen Fasimpaur :: K12 Handhelds, Long Beach, CA, US :: karen -at- k12opened.com :: http://www.k12opened.com/blog
 * Maria Cinque :: Università Campus Bio-Medico Roma :: m.cinque@unicampus.it :: http://m5-2007.blogspot.com/ (week 5)
 * Mario Mattioli :: Istituto Comprensivo Capena (Roma), Italy :: mariomattioli@gmail.com :: http://www.mariomattioli.it/ (week 6)
 * Megan Haggerty :: OISE/University of Toronto, Canada :: megan.haggerty [at] gmail {dot} com :: http://megsplanet.blogspot.com
 * Nuccia Silvana Pirruccello teacher and ICT teacher trainer : http://silvana.wordpress.com/ (in progress)
 * Nuria Gomis Berenguer :: Universidad de Alicante, Alicante, Spain :: nuria.gomis@gmail.com :: http://soliblo.blogspot.com/ (week 6)
 * Rick Reo :: George Mason University, Virginia (USA) :: rreo@gmu.edu :: http://rreo2.edublogs.org/ (week 6)
 * Rob Barton :: Utah State University :: gmail address is rdbarton :: http://robmba.blogspot.com/
 * Stian Håklev :: University of Toronto, Canada :: shaklev@gmail.com :: http://reganmian.net/blog
 * Thieme Hennis :: Delft University of Technology, Delft (the Netherlands) :: thiemehennis@gmail.com :: http://myopen.org (week 8)
 * Yu-Chun Kuo :: Utah State University :: yuchun.kuo@aggiemail.usu.edu :: http://happy-lucinda.blogspot.com/